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rsnyder6

Posted 07 April 2018 - 12:14 AM

They did post all the rule changes from the Congress, they all go into effect this year.

(They may have posted earlier, but I just found it.)

Plesh

Posted 24 January 2018 - 01:43 PM

Bigger leagues already suppress the number of 11s in Majors to stay at/ under the 10 team limit, it's going to be even worse now.

 

I do like the 10 game Senior season. I'm sure they got a million of these waivers every year so it helps out leagues/ districts in most places.

 

15 Run rule in 3 innings is definitely going to increase running up the score in tournament play.


Lou Barbieri

Posted 24 January 2018 - 12:24 AM

The one I don't like is #2 but it is what it is.
I think some leagues will go overboard with the number of 12s on a team and, as a result, have fewer 11s in majors.

RSNYDER6 - looks like everything that was approved goes into effect this year (2018).
This stuff probably won't be in the rulebooks so you will need to give a copy of these "changes" to all of your managers/coaches/umpires.

Plesh

Posted 23 January 2018 - 09:33 PM

I'm really happy #1 and #13 didn't pass.

Not happy with #12 passing.

LL is just so out of touch it's astonishing.
As Rich said, they are trying to turn it into travel (more like a half-a$$ attempt though).

rsnyder6

Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:33 PM

I am interested in what if any of these go into effect this year. I'm guessing it is too late for some of these things, though some would if they haven't printed the rulebooks yet. (Which they may not have, as I see the ebooks are not ready yet.)
 
Some of these I look at with a Board Member's hat, some with a coach's hat.
 
#1 NOT APPROVED  I'm happy. We don't need to blur the boundaries anymore.
 
#2 12s on a team. Not sure why this is changed for the future. It will be abused.
 
#3 3 Consecutive Days Pitching - Doesn't come up a lot, fine with me. I did have my son throw 20-20-20 once, but if we couldn't, it wouldn't be a big issue.
 
#4  Eliminating incomplete first inning - I'm fine. It might eliminate some confusion. 
 
#5  10- game Senior season We will still likely schedule more games. We schedule at least 14 now. (We schedule 20 in MInors and Majors, with no makeup games.) I'm, not clear on what this means: "NOTE: For Junior Tournament eligibility, Senior League players must have played in a minimum of 8 games. "
 
#6 Regular Season Substitution - We use CBO, so it doesn't have an effect on us.
 
#7 15- Runs after 3. This will help a strong team in tournaments, (I guess particularly ones a little short on pitching.) Optional for the regular season, and I doubt we would use it. We have teams now that want to play past the 10-run-rule.
 
#8 As a coach I very seldom visited the mound, but perhaps I would not like the restriction. The coaches that try to rework a pitcher's mechanics during the game will hate it. I come down on the side of keeping coaches off the field, so I'm O.K.
 
#9 & 10 Sounds like LL trying to get 50-70 to work. Majors-Intermediate-Juniors overlap is hard. Most leagues around here either have Majors & perhaps Juniors, or 50-70, and maybe Seniors. Leagues that didn't go 50-70 often didn't have room and/or money. We are not a tiny league, but we could not have all three. 
 
I think at some point LL is going to have to decide what it wants to do. Kids, (often much too young) want to play 50-70. It would have to replace Majors or do a whole restructuring. (I can hear the howls.) This would be hard for some leagues.
 
I think in general kids should compete in the tournament in the division they play in in the season.
 
#11 Ineligible player - Sounds good.
 
#12 Mandatory Play I have mixed feelings. It might alleviate some of the confusion, and the debate over some people being punished and some not. Or what punishment. Or the guessing if they tried to cheat or just forgot. I would prefer the managers handle it, but some (knowingly) don't. I would not like it, but last year was not good. I wonder if it might lead to more fake sicknesses among kids who don't show up or leave.
 
#13 Tie breaker. NOT APPROVED Good. Tournament sites use it so the can make more money by getting shorter games. Played under it and I don't care for it.

Mike_Hirschman

Posted 23 January 2018 - 05:47 PM

I think the only surprise to me is that the tiebreaker rule vote was as close as it was. 

 

I didn't like mound visits or the 10-12/INT tournament eligibility, but figured I would be in the minority. 


richives

Posted 23 January 2018 - 03:37 PM

So we're turning LL into travel tournament rules.
Big Whoop.

rsnyder6

Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:52 AM


Mike_Hirschman

Posted 10 December 2017 - 05:07 PM

I see someone posted rules changes in November but now there is this addenda

Help me understand ? The rules being discussed here are for the following season? Or does little league usually announce rules changes right before meeting and debating more rule changes?

Consider me confused

 

 

Mark,

 

Congress happens every four years. Typically the changes at Congress are larger than your normal rule change. (I say typically because, well... there have been exceptions.) The changes you saw earlier came from the Little League Board of Directors, which also sets the Congress agenda. 

 

Congress is a "convention" format that includes this agenda. There are educational pieces and other forums, as well.  

 

Some of these may get implemented immediately after Congress. (e.g. 15-run rule would probably become immediate.) Others may wait until 2019 for implementation if it would cause too much disruption. (e.g. Item 1)


Lou Barbieri

Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:31 PM

As Rich said, these items are Proposed Rule/Regulation changes.

They are discussed and voted on by the DAs at Congress.

Then, for the ones that pass and are subsequently approved by Williamsport decisions are made which (if any) go into effect immediately (in 2018) and which go into effect in 2019.

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