Replying to Vocal Coaches

By the way, I'm not a big believer that managers control the conduct of their player's parents/fans.
If you want to ask the manager to talk to the individual fine, it might work, but if it doesn't you can't blame the manager for the parent/fan being a jerk.

Used to be right in "The Right Call (3.18) that the manager is not responsible.
Was in the 2015 version.
Not mentioned in 2017.

I prefer to not have to have umpires need to deal with things off the field, but sometimes they must.

We just had a game were the parents were trying to get the plate umpire to overturn the field umps call. I tried to explain how it worked, (parents are not involved with umpires, one umpire does not overturn another), and most were O.K., (not listening, but O.K.) but one guy was going onto his this is Bull S&*^, the strike zone sucked all game, etc. He ended up storming away.

Thanks, Lou.
I like your answer too, Ron.

Our umps are generally reluctant to police the grandstands.
They feel like the managers/coaches/players are enough to deal with.

Our board members are going to help manage this issue as needed, and remind the parents that its the kids game and not theirs!
Hopefully it'll be clear enough before we need to toss the bad apples.

Call "Time" before the Pitcher pitches.
Send the teams to their dugouts.
Call the BOD Member on Duty and have him/her warn the individual if he/she does it again then he/she will be asked to leave.

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By the way, I'm not a big believer that managers control the conduct of their player's parents/fans.
If you want to ask the manager to talk to the individual fine, it might work, but if it doesn't you can't blame the manager for the parent/fan being a jerk.

When I managed, I always stressed good sportsmanship to all of my parents.
The vast majority were well behaved but over the years I had my share of rotten apples (IYKWIM).

Amutz: My son had that last year. He worked with his pitcher that certain pitches he would set up in a certain spot knowing the pitch was going someplace else. Several batters were getting frustrated. Ultimately, one batter on a 0-2 count was told way outside and low. It was a fastball in the heart of the plate, just under belt level.
The batter threw his bat down and yelled at the person behind the backstop.
The umpire then got involved because (1) the player threw his bat, and (2) the player was talking to the spectator.

They never did that to us again.
I think they were still doing it to others.

I personally would tell the managers that they need to control their parents. If that doesn't work, something else like what Lou said has to be done. Just let the players play.

Another 'spin' on the problem:  what would you do in this case?

We have a parent outside the backstop calling to batters on where the catcher is setting up...  "way outside now"  

Warn? Toss?   Tell your catcher to stop setting up so early?

I was not the umpire.
Just a spectator at that time.

You give the fan one Warning.
It doesn't matter if it's a home field or another park.
You're the Ump, you need to take control of the situation.

If it happens again, send the teams to their dugouts and call for the BOD Member on Duty.
If it's a Tournament Game call for the TD.

Been there, done that (as an Ump, a BOD Member on Duty and as a TD).

Rsnyder,
On that situation, we get the Board Member on duty to handle the situation and if the parent continues, then they are open to be removed from the field.

Unfortunately, this was taking place at a neighboring league so it was a bit more complicated than if at home turf.

I have removed a parent from our fields.

Rsnyder,
On that situation, we get the Board Member on Duty to handle the situation and if the parent continues, then they are open to be removed from the field.