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Mike_Hirschman

Posted 10 December 2017 - 05:07 PM

I see someone posted rules changes in November but now there is this addenda

Help me understand ? The rules being discussed here are for the following season? Or does little league usually announce rules changes right before meeting and debating more rule changes?

Consider me confused

 

 

Mark,

 

Congress happens every four years. Typically the changes at Congress are larger than your normal rule change. (I say typically because, well... there have been exceptions.) The changes you saw earlier came from the Little League Board of Directors, which also sets the Congress agenda. 

 

Congress is a "convention" format that includes this agenda. There are educational pieces and other forums, as well.  

 

Some of these may get implemented immediately after Congress. (e.g. 15-run rule would probably become immediate.) Others may wait until 2019 for implementation if it would cause too much disruption. (e.g. Item 1)


Lou Barbieri

Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:31 PM

As Rich said, these items are Proposed Rule/Regulation changes.

They are discussed and voted on by the DAs at Congress.

Then, for the ones that pass and are subsequently approved by Williamsport decisions are made which (if any) go into effect immediately (in 2018) and which go into effect in 2019.

richives

Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:11 PM

I see someone posted rules changes in November but now there is this addenda

Help me understand ? The rules being discussed here are for the following season? Or does little league usually announce rules changes right before meeting and debating more rule changes?

Consider me confused

 

The congress items are proposed changes. They would not go into effect unless passed AND approved by the LL BoD.


Posted 08 December 2017 - 05:11 PM

I see someone posted rules changes in November but now there is this addenda

Help me understand ? The rules being discussed here are for the following season? Or does little league usually announce rules changes right before meeting and debating more rule changes?

Consider me confused

Lou Barbieri

Posted 06 December 2017 - 04:20 PM

Again, in my opinion, this will hurt the small leagues.

Also, as someone else posted, boundaries have to mean something, don't they?

This is just another example of Williamsport getting tired of processing Waivers (in this case Out-Of-Boundary Waivers) so this way they get to have the DA do the work for them.

Mike_Hirschman

Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:33 PM

I like the transfer item (#1) in CONCEPT with the one-year tournament sit-out, but there still needs to be more clarity involved. 

 

 

+ In the case where a child has a different home league versus school-enrollment league, is the home league or the school-based league getting priority for the first permission signature? That could limit a league's ability to block the transfer. Last time this item was proposed, we didn't have school enrollment. 

 

+ Also, a kid that gets this transfer then has a younger sibling. That isn't a true II(d), right? If that child chose to go to the "transfer league", then said child would also forfeit future participation. 

 

+ Further, say a child has differing leagues for home and school declaration. The child goes through a "transfer league" process after participating in the residence-based league. Are we also removing the child's right to make a school declaration at some point? 

 

 

We have to keep in mind that these kids still have a 13-year span in their "Little League careers".  There may also need to be items for residency change and whereas school-enrollment eligibility changes (different boundary for elementary school versus middle school).

 

I can see where it can get really complicated and sticky. 


Lou Barbieri

Posted 05 December 2017 - 02:21 PM

Around here there is a big difference between 5 and 11.
Talent usually doesn't drop off that much until number 7 or 8.
It has usually dropped way off by the time you get to numbers 11 and 12.

richives

Posted 05 December 2017 - 05:06 AM

Sounds great but how many managers actually play their weakest players (subs) for 3 innings let alone 4 (unless the game is a blow-out)?

What I see a lot is 1-7 play the whole game.
8 plays 4 innings, 11 subs for innings 2 and 3 or 3 and 4.
9, 10 and 12 play 2 innings each (9 starts, is replaced by 12 after 2, who is replaced by 10 after 4).

 

2 weakest get the 3-3.

 

5-11 aren't as widely disparate - at least in my league . 


Lou Barbieri

Posted 05 December 2017 - 01:00 AM

Sounds great but how many managers actually play their weakest players (subs) for 3 innings let alone 4 (unless the game is a blow-out)?

What I see a lot is 1-7 play the whole game.
8 plays 4 innings, 11 subs for innings 2 and 3 or 3 and 4.
9, 10 and 12 play 2 innings each (9 starts, is replaced by 12 after 2, who is replaced by 10 after 4).

richives

Posted 05 December 2017 - 12:05 AM

Rich, as you say, the Tournament Rule IS easier than the Regular Season Rule.
Plus, it allows subs to re-enter.
So, why not use it as the Regular Season Rule?

Personally, I've always liked it better.

 

By removing a starter and using him to replace a different starter later on you can get  more playing time for some players

 

5

6

7

8

9

 

Remove 5 & 6 after 2 and put in 10 and 11

 

After 4 put 5 and 6 back in for 7 and 8

 

5, 6, 7, 8, 10, and 11 now all have 4 innings.

 

9 and 12 get 3 each.


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