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rsnyder6

Posted 13 May 2018 - 01:07 PM

For majors it's really pretty simple.

If you are an Existing League you can use a Draft Plan under Existing Leagues.
If you want to use one of the Draft Plans under Leagues in the First Year of Operation you need a Waiver approved by Williamsport.

If you want to use a Plan that is not in the LL Operating Policies or is even slightly different then you need to write-up what you want to do, submit it and get it approved by Williamsport before you use it.

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rsnyder6: So, what did you end up deciding to do?


We already had the drafts this spring, we just used what we have in the past.

I have discussed using this next spring with some board members.

Lou Barbieri

Posted 10 April 2018 - 02:12 PM

For majors it's really pretty simple.

If you are an Existing League you can use a Draft Plan under Existing Leagues.
If you want to use one of the Draft Plans under Leagues in the First Year of Operation you need a Waiver approved by Williamsport.

If you want to use a Plan that is not in the LL Operating Policies or is even slightly different then you need to write-up what you want to do, submit it and get it approved by Williamsport before you use it.

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rsnyder6: So, what did you end up deciding to do?

amutz

Posted 09 April 2018 - 10:28 PM

The odds of getting unbalanced teams with unseeded blind picks are very high, which is one of the reasons it isn't used much.

For example pick 10 teams of 12, and imagine 120 players pre-ranked in groups of 30 of A,B,C,D ability.
For balanced teams, you want to have 3 players in each 4 groups.
In a random draw, the odds of one team having all B,C,D players is roughly 30%.
Same odds that one team has all players in A,B,C ability.

Mr Dill's method of randomly assigning the drafted teams looks better for balanced play.

Mr. Dill

Posted 09 April 2018 - 08:14 PM

After the teams are picked, then all full teams are put into a hat.
Each mgr then BLINDLY picks 1 full team that was put together by all the managers.
Then after picking a team the mgr gets his son/daughter.

Lou Barbieri

Posted 09 April 2018 - 05:03 PM

As stated above, your Plan is very similar to Plan B under Draft Plans for Leagues in the First Year of Operation.
LL has previously stated that if you are an Existing League you need a Waiver to use a Draft Plan listed under Leagues in their First Year of Operation.

Now, if you are going to give the manager and a coach their children "up front" (before you pick the players out of the hat) that is different than the Plan in the Rulebook.

Mr. Dill

Posted 09 April 2018 - 01:38 PM

A blind draft per LL is you pick all the kids out of a hat and place them on a team.

By having the managers pick the teams, evenly, then blindly pick a team with all the players already on it, except for the mgr son/daughter, is not in the rules.

So LL asked me to have this Waiver approved each year.
Even if this method is the best way to do it.

Also while balancing each team before they finally blind pick everyone should have a player who's father/mother is going to help coach also.

Lou Barbieri

Posted 06 April 2018 - 06:29 PM

But according to LL HQ you have to ask for a waiver to use this method each year???

As stupid as that sounds, Yes!
Waivers are only for one year.

Personally I think they should do away with the Existing League Plans and the First Year League Plans and just list all the Approved Draft Plans and let the leagues decide which one works best for them.
Seems silly to me to have to ask for a Waiver for an Approved Draft Plan.

Then again, it is Little League !!! B)

rsnyder6

Posted 06 April 2018 - 06:07 PM

That's what we've done for years, definitely is the best way to pick balanced teams.

I wonder if I could get away with this in Minors.

In Minors, a lot of the coaches still pick by friendship, not quality of teams.

Then they complain that they lose so many games.

But being in Minors, I can experiment without needing approval, and then we could use what works in Majors with approval.

Mr. Dill

Posted 06 April 2018 - 05:57 PM

But according to LL HQ you have to ask for a Waiver to use this method each year???

Plesh

Posted 06 April 2018 - 05:05 PM

That's what we've done for years, definitely is the best way to pick balanced teams.


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