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#41 Guest_Lou Barbieri_*

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Posted 01 March 2016 - 05:11 PM

2016 Softball Rulebook

 

Section 2, Definitions:

An INNING is that portion of a game within which the teams alternate on offense and defense and in which there are three put outs for each team. 

It will be held that an inning starts the moment the third out is made completing the preceding inning.

(Minor League Only - A five-run limit is to be imposed which would complete the half inning.)

 

Rule 5.07:

When three offensive players are legally put out, that team takes the field and the opposing team becomes the offensive team (side retired).

(Minor League: The side is retired when three offensive players are legally put out, called out by an umpire, or when all players have batted one time in the half-inning or when the offensive team scores five (5) runs). 

(OPTION: The local league Board of Directors may suspend the five-run rule in the last half-inning for either team)....



#42 amutz

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Posted 01 March 2016 - 06:07 PM

Is this 'upper minor' or 'lower minor' league.

Our baseball league has a 'lower minor' league which doesn't have walks, after 4 balls the coach pitches.

In 'upper minor' I think its appropriate to have walks....



#43 coach andy

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Posted 01 March 2016 - 07:21 PM

We only have one minors division and last year we only inter-leagued with one other league.
We agreed on this with them: we had walks except when bases loaded, then coach pitched, max 3 pitches, count continued.
We had both called and swinging strikes.
It worked.

I pitched 1-2 times a game I think.



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Posted 26 May 2017 - 12:54 PM

Ok, so if a team has their whole team how can they get Pool Players from other teams?
In a championship game can someone help me on that?

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 01:17 PM

If a team has 9 or more players showing up to a game, they should not request a pool player.

However, if a few kids say they cannot attend a game and the coach thinks he's only going to have 8, gets a pool player, and now one shows up (10 total), no reason to send him/her home, just play with 10.

In the playoffs/ championship game though, that's different.
If your 9th shows up, I'd say to the pool player, thanks for coming out to play, I really appreciate it, but I don't need you tonight anymore, why don't you do the scoreboard and I'll buy you ice cream after the game.

I wouldn't want either team to have a competitive advantage/ disadvantage.

#46 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 02:15 PM

Pool Players is for when a team is "short" players.

Our local rules allow a manager to request Pool Players to get to 10 players (playing with 9 is risky because you can drop to 8 with an injury, illness, ejection, etc).

If the Player Agent assigns a Pool Player and he/she is present at the game you cannot say "thanks, but we don't need you, ..."
The Pool Player "must play" and must get one at-bat and play in the field for 9 defensive outs.

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 08:25 PM

We make pool players start even if a tenth player shows up....and if you pull the pool player at all you might hear me give you some crap after the game.

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 10:42 PM

Jeremy, are those "Local Rules"?

There is no LL requirement that a Pool Player must start.
There is also no LL requirement that says you can't remove/replace a Pool Player once he/she has had one at-bat and has played 9 consecutive defensive outs (3 more than the normal minimum of 6).

Why would you give a manager "crap" for following the LL Rules/Regulations?

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 04:03 AM

Not a local rule, just courtesy and etiquette.
I always give pool players the game ball too unless they act like a turd.

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:32 PM

Is there a time limit on a pool player showing up?
If we secure a player before game time, does he have a time limit to show up?

#51 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:50 PM

The regulation states: Pool Players that are called and show up at the game site must play at least nine consecutive defensive outs and bat once.

Never known one to be late but if he/she shows up in the 5th inning, the 9 outs might be a problem! ;o)

PS: By secure another player I assume you mean another one of the players on your team can now make the game.

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Posted 08 May 2018 - 09:28 PM

The league's player agent will use the pool to assign players within their respective division to teams that are short of players on a rotating basis.

Looking for a definition of respective division?
Do the Pool players have to come from the Majors for a Major Team?

What if the Majors teams play the same night?
Are minors players allowed to be pool players for a majors game?


#53 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 08 May 2018 - 10:57 PM

Respective division means the division that they are in (majors for majors, minors for minors).
Minors don't play up and majors don't play down.

You can ask for a Waiver to allow lower division players to "play up" a division.

According to previous Posts, LL has approved such Waivers for small leagues.
Example: 2 majors teams playing each other and one is short players.
You wouldn't get a Pool Player from the other team to play against his/her team mates.
So, you would get a minor player to play up for a game.

Again, you need a Waiver to do it, you can't just do it on your own.

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Posted 09 May 2018 - 04:55 AM

Can actually still play with 8 as well, but if ball gets in a gap, automatic HR pretty much.

 

No.



#55 Mr. Dill

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:27 PM

So do leagues use 11/12 players in a pool to replace a team that is short handed in a majors inter-league game, or should they only use 9/10 players for the pool for the major team that is short handed?
And can the Pool Player pitch?

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:31 PM

The easy one first, Pool Players cannot pitch.

The other one is pretty easy too, Pool Players come from within their respective division (majors in majors, minors in minors) unless you have an approved Waiver from Williamsport that allows you to do otherwise.
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