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#1 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 07:56 PM

Now is the time for DAs to submit proposed Rule/Regulation changes for the 2020 Regional Roundtables.
If you have a good idea Post it here so that other DAs might also submit it. The more that submit the same item the more likely it will make the Agenda.

Malicious Contact:
By a runner: ball is dead, runner is out and ejected. If the runner had scored on the play the run does not count. Other runner(s) return to last acquired base(s).
By a fielder: ball is dead, fielder is ejected. Runner and all other runners are awarded one base from their previously acquired base.
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Posted 24 October 2019 - 10:03 PM

Now is the time for DAs to submit proposed Rule/Regulation changes for the 2020 Regional Roundtables.
If you have a good idea Post it here so that other DAs might also submit it. The more that submit the same item the more likely it will make the Agenda.

Malicious Contact:
By a runner: ball is dead, runner is out and ejected. If the runner had scored on the play the run does not count. Other runner(s) return to last acquired base(s).
By a fielder: ball is dead, fielder is ejected. Runner and all other runners are awarded one base from their previously acquired base.

 

Need a definition of malicious contact. And I would't bet on it getting called correctly  given that too many people think any contact is illegal (like a recent topic on another board).


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Posted 24 October 2019 - 10:07 PM

Add "or sticks in" to 7.05h)  "  . . or goes over or through or sticks in a fence or backstop."

 

Closes a loophole.


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Posted 25 October 2019 - 01:03 AM

Need a definition of malicious contact. And I would't bet on it getting called correctly  given that too many people think any contact is illegal (like a recent topic on another board).

 

Malicious contact is “an act that involves excessive force with an opponent." mirror the NFHS rule.  Not perfect but its a start.



#5 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 01:42 AM

OK Rich, you think we need a definition of Malicious Contact, I'll add the NFHS definition per amutz and resend my proposal to LL.

By the way Rich, in 9.01(d), what's the definition of unsportsmanlike conduct?

#6 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 02:26 AM

Add "or sticks in" to 7.05h) " . . or goes over or through or sticks in a fence or backstop."

Closes a loophole.

Sounds good, I'll have my DA submit it.

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Update: My DA said he submitted "or becomes lodged in"

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 04:11 AM

OK Rich, you think we need a definition of Malicious Contact, I'll add the NFHS definition per amutz and resend my proposal to LL.

By the way Rich, in 9.01(d), what's the definition of unsportsmanlike conduct?

 

My point was and is that once you put malicious contact, no matter how defined, into the rules it will just feed the "all contact is illegal" folks.  Joe Behemoth sliding into Pete Pipsqueak will look excessive no matter how legal it is.

 

I think UC is much better understood. Not perfectly perhaps, but much better.



#8 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 29 October 2019 - 06:25 PM

LL sent an email to All DAs that includes a "Link" to the Agenda Survey Website.
The DA puts in his information (name, state/country and District #) and then can submit proposed changes to Rules and/or Regulations.
Pretty easy to use.

DAs, this is your chance to submit proposed changes, Please take advantage of it.

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 05:10 AM

Another one - this needs to be added

Rule 4.09(a) Comment: A run legally scored cannot be nullified
by subsequent action of the runner, such as but not limited
to an effort to return to third base in the belief that he had left
the base before a caught fly ball.
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Posted 16 December 2019 - 02:52 AM

Regulation IV
(i) Mandatory Play: Every rostered player present at the start of the game and every late arriving rostered player that is entered into the game by his/her manager will participate in that game for a minimum of six (6) defensive outs and bat at least one (1) time. For the purpose of this rule ...

This clarifies LL's position on late arriving players and MPR (the current Regulation does not say it applies to late arriving players put into the game but LL says it does).

#11 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 06 January 2020 - 09:48 PM

LL has Posted the Agenda for the 2020 Regional Roundtables:

https://www.littlele...ndtable-agenda/

How would you vote?


No proposed MC Rule, not that I thought there would be! :)

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Posted 08 January 2020 - 01:08 AM

These proposals mostly seem reasonable.  I'd  vote against using minor league players as pool players, but ok other than that.  


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 03:56 AM

A lot of small leagues need to be able to use minor players as pool players for majors.
You've got two major teams and they play each other and one is short players, what do you do?
Allowing minors to play up to majors as pool players allows the game to be played.

Same would go for leagues with one of two Intermediate or Junior or Senior teams.
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Posted 08 January 2020 - 04:27 PM

"retired as a batter-runner or runner, score,"

 

This us unnecessary. Once the batter becomes a batter-runner his AB is completed. He can only score if he has become a batter-runner or runner. He cannot become a runner until BOTH he became a batter-runner AND the initial play is over.


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 04:30 PM

I think minimum roster size should be at least 10.  No one ever has perfect attendance and dipping into the pool would become routine instead of rare. 



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Posted 08 January 2020 - 04:32 PM

NO on courtesy runners.



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Posted 08 January 2020 - 04:33 PM

Time limits only in minors. 

 

It isn't over 'till it's over.  It makes the game unique and special.


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 04:35 PM

Special games should NOT count unless all the teams (and thus players) participate in the same number of them



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Posted 08 January 2020 - 05:40 PM

"retired as a batter-runner or runner, score,"
 
This us unnecessary. Once the batter becomes a batter-runner his AB is completed. He can only score if he has become a batter-runner or runner. He cannot become a runner until BOTH he became a batter-runner AND the initial play is over.


I think the intent is that if "one at bat Johnny" does get on base his AB isn't completed! He gets to run the bases, he can't be taken out for a SPR or be subbed for while on base.

So, under the current rule, Johnny walks and the manager puts in a SPR, Johnny has met his one AB requirement.
Under the proposed change, Johnny walks and the manager puts in a SPR, Johnny has NOT met his one AB requirement.
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Posted 09 January 2020 - 01:27 AM

NO on courtesy runners.

 

I liked having the option to courtesy run for my catcher with two outs.  It moves the game along.  





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