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#1 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 12:48 PM

Joe West calls fan interference as Mookie Betts attempts to catch the potential game tying two run Home Run by Altuve in the bottom of the first inning of game 4 of the ALCS.
Call is upheld with replay review.

https://www.mlb.com/...ets/c-298086790

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 03:52 PM

Joe West calls fan interference as Mookie Betts attempts to catch the potential game tying two run Home Run by Altuve in the bottom of the first inning of game 4 of the ALCS.
Call is upheld with replay review.

https://www.mlb.com/...ets/c-298086790

 

Additional info later in the broadcast:

 

Call stood. It was not confirmed. Not enough evidence to overturn.

 

I think it was in the stands and thus not interference.  The available views couldn't see it well enough and the side angle view that would have shown it was blocked. 



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Posted 22 October 2018 - 11:06 PM

At the point of contact the fielder's body was still not to the wall.  He then traveled to make contact with the wall after he made contact with their hands.  I thought it was not in the stands.  Is the top of the wall considered on the field?

 

He was clearly on track for catching the ball and the hands closed his glove.  The blocked camera is what they needed for definitive proof. 



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Posted 23 October 2018 - 05:39 PM

At the point of contact the fielder's body was still not to the wall.  He then traveled to make contact with the wall after he made contact with their hands.  I thought it was not in the stands.  Is the top of the wall considered on the field?

 

He was clearly on track for catching the ball and the hands closed his glove.  The blocked camera is what they needed for definitive proof. 

 It doesn't matter where his body was - it's where the ball was. I think the ball was over the wall.

 

The face of the wall is the boundary. If the ball was past that there can be no fan interference.

 

Definitions: 

 

"FAIR TERRITORY is that part of the playing field within, and

including the first base and third base lines, from home base to the bottom
of the playing field fence and perpendicularly upwards."
 
"Spectator interference occurs when a spectator (or an object
thrown by the spectator) hinders a player’s attempt to make a
play on a live ball, by going onto the playing field, or reaching
out of the stands and over the playing field."
 
(Catch) Comment:  No interference should be allowed
when a fielder reaches over a fence, railing, rope or into a stand
to catch a ball. He does so at his own risk.
 
Rule 6.01(e) Comment: 
"No interference shall be allowed when a fielder reaches over a
fence, railing, rope or into a stand to catch a ball. He does so at
his own risk. However, should a spectator reach out on the
playing field side of such fence, railing or rope, and plainly
prevent the fielder from catching the ball, then the batsman
should be called out for the spectator’s interference."
 
 


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Posted 23 October 2018 - 09:50 PM

I understand that, but I was only using the location of his body as a visual reference point to determine where his hand was in relation to the wall when he made contact with the ball and the spectator hands.  Given that his body was a distance from the wall, and arm angled, makes it quite possible the hand was not over the wall. 

 

For example, assuming that his body was hitting the wall and his arm was angled back toward the stands, that would make the glove over the wall.  Now if he was making contact with the wall and his arm was straight up that would also give a reference that there was interference.



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Posted 23 October 2018 - 10:36 PM

At the 59 second mark "it appears" the the guy in orange is up against the wall and is reaching forward which to me (a totally unbiased Red Sox fan) means that he is reaching over the face of the wall and is interfering with Betts.
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Posted 24 October 2018 - 03:40 PM

At the 59 second mark "it appears" the the guy in orange is up against the wall and is reaching forward which to me (a totally unbiased Red Sox fan) means that he is reaching over the face of the wall and is interfering with Betts.

 

The wall looks to be a foot think. The face of the wall is the boundary. He would have to reach beyond face of the wall into the field of play for it to be interference. I don't think he did. 

 

Maier interfered (no replay then). This guy didn't.  



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Posted 24 October 2018 - 05:30 PM

I'll side with the Umpire (Mr. West) on this one!

By the way, if you look at the photo where the Security Guard is blocking the view of the play the wall looks like it's 4 or maybe 6 inches thick, pretty easy to reach over it if you are standing next to it.

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Posted 24 October 2018 - 05:34 PM

I'll side with the Umpire (Mr. West) on this one!

 

Ruling stood, was not confirmed. Too bad the side view got blocked.

 

Side with Garcia?



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Posted 26 October 2018 - 11:17 PM

As long as no one faults the fans.

I would try to catch the ball in flight too before I risk a crazy ricochet to the face.

You see the fan it was heading right towards pulling his head back and tightening muscles, preparing to be hit....that wouldn’t be me.

#11 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 11:23 PM

At least they didn't make this guy out to be a "Bartman II"!



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