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#1 ofina

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 01:15 AM

We have AA and AAA in our minor divisions. They went through a draft a few weeks ago. 2 teams in one, 3 in the other.
Today I have had a mother email me to say that she meant to sign her son up for AAA but instead did AA.
Further to that she wants him on a specific team with his cousins.

Is this okay to just proceed with?
The team she wants happens to be the next one in the draft sequence.
But I worry about pulling him from the team he was drafted to in AA.

#2 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 01:14 PM

In minors, we try to accommodate parent requests in the draft.
In your case, two weeks after the Draft is challenging.

As you said, what about the team that drafted him?
Was he one of their top picks?
Is it fair to them to lose him?

What about the team she wants him to go on?
Would adding him give that team an advantage?

This is minors so you have some leeway but it's two weeks after the draft and after teams have already been practicing.
I'd be careful that you don't open the floodgates for others.

#3 ofina

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 02:54 PM

He was the 9th pick on the team he was drafted to.
So, not terribly high up, no.
And I think I was wrong that the team he wants to be on would have been the next one in the draft sequence.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 03:08 PM

If player was 9th pick for AA, you would also want to confirm he has appropriate skills for AAA prior to approving a move.  Occasionally we see requests like this which aren't in the best interest of the players development.   


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#5 ofina

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 07:15 PM

Yes, actually, we've been discussing this over email this morning and his coach from last year happens to be on the board and says he doesn't think he's ready.
So, the "legality" of it all is rather moot if he's not ready.
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#6 ofina

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 01:58 PM

Strangely, we got another request for the same thing, same league age.
Though this time, taken at face value, it's because after the first practice the mother feels that her kid is too advanced for AA.

Different situation and we'll check with the people who know him to see his level of play.
But he was bored.

#7 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 02:14 PM

Do you have try-outs or do you just put players in AA/AAA based on age/parent requests?

Again, parent requests are just that, requests.
You accommodate them to the extent possible but you have to draw the line somewhere.

#8 ofina

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 03:09 PM

Yes, and yes.

We have tryouts, but they are just for helping the managers draft.  Not to determine AA vrs AAA.  The parents and child's age determine that.

 

I'm not really asking about this one, because the situation is different.  After the first practice, the mother feels that her kid needs a higher level.  We will consult with the managers and VPs involved and make a decision.

 

And we have decided to say no to the other kid because of abilities.  It was a resounding, unanimous no, actually.



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Posted 13 April 2018 - 05:26 PM

It is helpful to have tryouts as a basis for placement - but we only encourage tryouts for Majors and for our high minors levels.
We primarily use age, prior level, and parent input for low minors and below levels.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 05:20 PM

After the first practice, the mother feels that her kid needs a higher level. We will consult with the managers and VPs involved and make a decision.

And we have decided to say no to the other kid because of abilities. It was a resounding, unanimous no, actually.

I find parents are often very unreliable at estimating their child's ability.

Often there are other reasons for asking to move a player.
When they ask for a specific team, that is a dead giveaway that are looking for a friend or particular coach.

We turned one down this spring, the child was clearly not ready to move up (the child was 5, only made the LA 6 cut off by a few days, and they wanted him in the 7-8s), and the parent withdrew the kid.
One board member had a fit, but it was the right thing to do.
The player was barely average in his division. (I feel bad for a child that the parent would rather have not play at all if the parent doesn't get their way)



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