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#21 Guest_4smark_*

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 12:27 AM

Even though it's a little late, I'm glad they came to their senses and made bbcor legal for Juniors.

https://www.littlele...ules/bat-rules/

I still don't understand why they made it legal for 50/70. Anyone swinging that heavy of a bat should be playing JRs

#22 rsnyder6

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 04:56 AM

There are leagues that have 50/70 and not Juniors.

From what I've seen around here, leagues that added 50/70 either took from their Majors program (11-12) or Juniors (13).
Those that built 50/70 out of the 13s, got rid of Juniors (not all, but many).

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 04:50 PM

I can't believe it took this long for them to amend that rule.
I was shocked to not see BBCOR bats allowed initially when they first released the rule changes.
It just highlights how LL doesn't think through any decisions.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 04:33 PM

Even though it's a little late, I'm glad they came to their senses and made bbcor legal for Juniors.

https://www.littlele...ules/bat-rules/

I still don't understand why they made it legal for 50/70. Anyone swinging that heavy of a bat should be playing JRs


They were all that heavy in the pre-metal days.
And the very early aluminum bats were heavy too.

#25 rsnyder6

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:09 PM

I've received questions from parents of 12-year-olds.

They have to buy new USA bats for their child's last year in Majors. However next year their child will move to Seniors, which is restricted to BBCOR.

They prefer the bat to last more than one season, so what do I tell them?



#26 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 02:20 AM

Tell them: Life isn't fair! B)

Maybe after the season they can sell the bat to Play It Again Sports!!!
Or, donate it to the league for someone to use next season.

This year our league is providing each major team two USA bats.
Got a pretty good deal at Dicks.
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Posted 19 February 2018 - 02:55 AM

I assume you'll provide each team with at least one bat so they can just do that.
Or tell them to buy a cheap $50 bat.

#28 Mike_Hirschman

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 06:42 PM

If you read the memo from HQ, the change was spurred by USA Baseball guidance.
That's how this should work.
This isn't just a LL thing.

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 01:29 PM

It isn't just a LL thing, but they are the biggest player and drive most of these changes.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 05:49 AM

We bought bats also. I know we are going to get a lot of talk about buying new bats, (they can't say they don't know, we were sending out notifications for years).

I'm just happy all the bats will be stamped, or NG.

I didn't think about the 12s though. Thought maybe folks had a snappy comeback.

I just hope LL is done, (as of 2/15) changing the rules.

Oh, all the Play it Again Sports around here closed several years ago. :)

#31 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:23 PM

I was in the Atlanta area last weekend for one of my grandson's birthday.
On Saturday he had baseball practice (7-8 machine pitch LL).

Every kid had their own USA Bat.
Can't tell you how many "stingers" the batter's were getting during BP.
Lots of dropping of bats and shaking of hands (and it wasn't cold out).

Is anyone else seeing similar "stingers" with the new USA Bats?

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:24 PM

First outdoor batting practice on Tuesday really showed how the bats perform.
Truly like a wood bat, just with a ping.
I love it.
Lots of stingers and little margin for error.
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Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:56 PM

I was in the Atlanta area last weekend for one of my grandson's birthday.
On Saturday he had baseball practice (7-8 machine pitch LL).

Every kid had their own USA Bat.
Can't tell you how many "stingers" the batter's were getting during BP.
Lots of dropping of bats and shaking of hands (and it wasn't cold out).

Is anyone else seeing similar "stingers" with the new USA Bats?

 

7-8?  73.26% (+-  1.8%) are mis-hit. Thus stingers. 


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#34 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 04:26 PM

This wasn't my first rodeo.
I've seen many many 7-8 practices and games and have never seen anything close to the number of stingers that I saw last Saturday.
I was just asking if people are seeing more stingers with the new USA Bats.
Sounds like Plesh might be a Yes.

#35 Plesh

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:42 PM

Yes a ton more, but that was to be expected for a few reasons:

 

-Most people aren't buying the expensive two-piece bats now because it's just not worth it anymore

-Most people aren't buying the expensive composite bats for the same reason

-The new standard reduces the trampoline effect bats can create so that energy has to go somewhere now. Since it's not going into the ball, it's being absorbed by the hands

 

Like I said, BP the other day was a huge shocker to all the kids. My 10U and 11U kids who were used to hitting 150'+ shots were barely getting balls to our outfielders (who were playing shallow). I let one of our average 11U kids use their old Mako and the difference was apparent after that first swing.



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Posted 23 February 2018 - 06:40 PM

Eventually I'd expect a 'compromise' price bat will probably be a one-piece with 'vibration dampener' like the Marucci Cat 7, but they haven't shipped USA Bats yet.

Makes sense that none of the parents are excited to spend $350 for a reduced performance bat for little league, when travel is still using the hot bats.



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Posted 26 February 2018 - 11:14 AM

Of course, you could always use a wood bat !!! :)
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