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#1 B_Hanlon

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 06:01 PM

Would be interesting to have the opinion of the District Administrator who overseas this new league.

 

 

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#2 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 06:41 PM

Two fields, 44 kids, 4 teams, majors only.
Why majors only? (we all know why)

We have leagues in our District that have two fields and have everything from tee-ball through majors.
Hopefully, in the true spirit of Little League, they will become a "full league" (several divisions) next year.
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Posted 01 August 2017 - 01:20 PM

Have to love those fake "leagues"!


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 02:38 PM

So just implement a rule that newly formed leagues must have been chartered with LL for the two prior seasons before you may enter the tournament.  Leagues that have existed intact under a different umbrella or at least two years before chartering with LL may enter immediaely.


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 05:34 PM

I like it. Anything to prevent situations like this and Taney.



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Posted 01 August 2017 - 07:00 PM

So just implement a rule that newly formed leagues must have been chartered with LL for the two prior seasons before you may enter the tournament. Leagues that have existed intact under a different umbrella or at least two years before chartering with LL may enter immediaely.



We have an Air Force base in our district that only has a league every few years when the numbers work out...Last time they had a regular season team was 2014. It's a pain in the butt to travel to them, everyone has to have background checks to enter the base.....If they do have a tournament team they should be able to enter if they got their 12 regular season games in.

#7 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 07:15 PM

LL does not want to discourage new leagues from forming.
There are all sorts of unique situations out there so "one rule fits all" is difficult.

That said, a new league that only has majors should set off an alarm.
Sounds like LL gave them a huge boundary and all they could come up with is forty four 11 and 12 year olds, sounds fishy to me.

As I said before, with 2 fields they should have easily been able to service more than 4 teams with 44 kids.

Just my opinion.

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 07:40 PM

They have 3000!!!!! kids in their local youth baseball association and this guy only took 44!

He did it solely to give his 11 year old kid two chances to play on ESPN.

Oh how LL has fallen =(

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 02:35 PM

Things like this don't help us when folks come to us with "creative" ideas.

We say we can't do it that way, because it is against the rules, or unfair, or just not right, and the say "Such and such league is doing this."

We aren't going to change, ( my feeling is the average LLer is the one who always suffers in these rule stretches), but not every league playing with the same purpose hurts.

#10 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 08:04 PM

Well, they got what they wanted, they're on their way to Williamsport. B)

Hey, did I mention that they have 14 players on their Roster!!!

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 04:19 AM

0-2


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Posted 20 August 2017 - 12:14 PM

0-2

 

I must say I was smiling when they went down to Dub yesterday and finished 0-2


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Posted 22 August 2017 - 08:33 PM

They have 3000!!!!! kids in their local youth baseball association and this guy only took 44!

He did it solely to give his 11 year old kid two chances to play on ESPN.

Oh how LL has fallen =(

 

 

Back that up a second... there are 3000 kids in the RIVAL association. This new group was able to steal 44 kids from them to get this thing off the ground. 

 

For years, Sioux Falls recreational baseball has been the domain of the Sioux Empire Baseball Association (SEBA), which has its own staff and uses its own rules rather than exist as a subsidiary of Little League.

Past efforts to bring Little League to town have fizzled due to lack of available fields and the daunting prospect of battling SEBA on its own turf.

 

This is a lot different that what Taney was in Philly. Taney was already established and switched over... and was allowed to keep all of those kids. 

 

This is a Little League guy moving into a new town saying "let's make a run at this". The other organization chooses not to play LL. So he can grab whatever territory and kids and get the thing rolling. 



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Posted 22 August 2017 - 08:36 PM

They have 3000!!!!! kids in their local youth baseball association and this guy only took 44!

He did it solely to give his 11 year old kid two chances to play on ESPN.

Oh how LL has fallen =(

 

 

They have 3000!!!!! kids in their local youth baseball association and this guy only took 44!

He did it solely to give his 11 year old kid two chances to play on ESPN.

Oh how LL has fallen =(

 

 

Back that up a second... there are 3000 kids in the RIVAL association. This new group was able to steal 44 kids from them to get this thing off the ground. 

 

For years, Sioux Falls recreational baseball has been the domain of the Sioux Empire Baseball Association (SEBA), which has its own staff and uses its own rules rather than exist as a subsidiary of Little League.

Past efforts to bring Little League to town have fizzled due to lack of available fields and the daunting prospect of battling SEBA on its own turf.

 

This is a lot different that what Taney was in Philly. Taney was already established and switched over... and was allowed to keep all of those kids. 

 

This is a Little League guy moving into a new town saying "let's make a run at this". The other organization chooses not to play LL. So he can grab whatever territory and kids and get the thing rolling. 

 

And BTW... Taney still isn't a true Little League, keeping their athletic association umbrella to play in non-LL sanctioned tournaments.

 

 

 

They have 3000!!!!! kids in their local youth baseball association and this guy only took 44!

He did it solely to give his 11 year old kid two chances to play on ESPN.

Oh how LL has fallen =(

 

 

Back that up a second... there are 3000 kids in the RIVAL association. This new group was able to steal 44 kids from them to get this thing off the ground. 

 

For years, Sioux Falls recreational baseball has been the domain of the Sioux Empire Baseball Association (SEBA), which has its own staff and uses its own rules rather than exist as a subsidiary of Little League.

Past efforts to bring Little League to town have fizzled due to lack of available fields and the daunting prospect of battling SEBA on its own turf.

 

This is a lot different that what Taney was in Philly. Taney was already established and switched over... and was allowed to keep all of those kids. 

 

This is a Little League guy moving into a new town saying "let's make a run at this". The other organization chooses not to play LL. So he can grab whatever territory and kids and get the thing rolling. 

 

And BTW... Taney still isn't a true Little League, keeping their athletic association umbrella to play in non-LL sanctioned tournaments.

 

 



#15 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 11:15 PM

Update: Final LLWS Record was 0 - 3 !!!

That said, I'm sure it was a great experience and it is something they will always remember.

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:03 AM

So they happen to find just the right mix of 44 kids to take them to Williamsport.
IDK, geez it was just by chance.
Its not like SD is the hot bed of baseball players.
If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck....

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:42 PM

0-3 :)

And exactly, which is why there was much less complaining about Taney at the time.
However, they don't really play LL anymore.
They put in 1 or 2 tournament teams and that's it, not even an 11/12 team.

SF is a true fake league.
Just like the Japanese or Korean "leagues".



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