Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:56 PM
Turns out that the spectator is the father of a player who has been saying that he is feeling weak and a little nauseated.
After complaining a bit to the umpire, the manager asks
(1) can he continue his discussions with the father?
(2) how can he substitute for the subject player given that he has no valid substitutions left? and
(3) could the player after being substituted for possibly later be reinserted into the lineup if he subsequently reports feeling better (and presumably if the father concurs)?
Umpire says (1) No, (2) opposing manager chooses the substitute, and (3) Yes, but why would anyone choose to take the risk.
Posted 18 June 2017 - 06:37 PM
This kind of thing happens all the time in Florida.
Take a few minutes to let the manager and parent figure out the situation and go from there.
Opposing manager chooses the sub
Player can return if/when feeling better
Posted 18 June 2017 - 06:53 PM
Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:02 PM
AllStars last night....Games moved back an hour for heat, first inning manager brings pitcher water, second inning water again, third inning no water but did a circle visit, fourth inning water again....The ump didn't call for the water breaks so in my book that's four mound visits....am I heartless?.....I was only a spectator so I sat in silence, I might have yelled fourth mound visit if we were trailing but we were just about to 10 run them.....No 2 & BBQ for us this year!
Any more questions?
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:12 PM
Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:51 AM
Tonight's major AllStars...We drive an hour plus to a game, a young lady was having a lady issue and wasn't able to wear white pants, didn't wear white pants last night either....anyways long story short, top of second the other manager comes out and said she wasn't in uniform with her team all in white pants, umps and other manager are told why she was in black.....She was told to change pants or leave the game, no one had a pair for her to wear...mom gets ejected, kid is crying.....IMO manager should have protested, but he didn't know the tournment protest process.
After the game ump yells at our parents who were still running their mouths, that it wasn't their call, that they had to enforce it because the other manager called them on it.
Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:31 PM
The ump really has no choice once there was a complaint.
The two idiots are the managers.
The first for complaining and the second for not knowing the protest rules.
Pretty sure WP would have ruled to let her play.
Tournament rules allow regular season uniforms. Thus they do not all have to be alike.
And the umpire could have said "get a life coach" and let her play. Or maybe "too late coach, should have mentioned it before the game started". He DID have a choice.
Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:10 PM
We're all the girls wearing regular season uniforms or did they ever one have all star jerseys and white pants except for this girl?
Nothing in the rules say you have to protest uniforms before the game.
Maybe the ump should have said No and then the manager could have protested all the way up the chain, which is what the other manager should have done.
Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:09 PM
I'm guessing some local rule about dressing the same. We want the players to dress the same also, (mostly so we don't have the cool kids and the rest), but it clearly shouldn't be the top priority in Little League. There are other things that trump such a requirement. (Like common decency.)
We are in playoffs, and I will make kids change their pants tonight if they are not wearing matching ones, but before the game, and we have a room with bins of extra ones.
Posted 19 June 2017 - 05:02 PM
Waterbreaks should be encouraged for F! and F2 on hot days. Discuss at the plate conference and tell the managers it will be handled like an injury visit. No discussion of strategy or anything other then the players well being, Hustle out, hustle back in.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:42 PM
Yes, you can wear regular season uniforms in All Stars.
We're all the girls wearing regular season uniforms or did they ever one have all star jerseys and white pants except for this girl? Where does it say that matters? The point is that they do not have to match.
Nothing in the rules say you have to protest uniforms before the game. It's the top of the second - she already appeared at the game once it started - doesn't matter whether field or bench - she was there. Sorry Charlie - you let it go at first - defacto acceptance - too late now.
Maybe the ump should have said No and then the manager could have protested all the way up the chain, which is what the other manager should have done. Maybe the ump should visit his proctologist to see if he can find his head.
Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:17 PM
That's pretty shady. We've had umpires go over board when kids forgot ball caps in the 9/10 BB tourney and that same ump put up a stink when our SB team showed up with matching shorts except for my daughter, the pitcher, and catcher.
Both didn't feel comfortable in shorts so I wasn't going to make them play in shorts.
Colors did match but were different styles.
Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:04 AM
I still want to call the President of the league we played to let him know how low his manager is willing to go.....Karma got me for thinking about the circle visit/water breaks....Sun gave me a nasty headache two nights ago.
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