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Special Games - All Stars "Non-Williamsport"

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#1 B_Hanlon



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 12:38 PM

Each year gets more and more frustrating for our small town leagues. Similar to most youth sports programs there are so many options these days our leagues are smaller and All Star teams tougher to field. Between the shortened seasons,  paperwork hassles, trouble getting umpires, two and barbecue teams and little or no chance of advancing leagues are losing interest.


Lately there have been some interesting discussions about scrapping All Stars, running the season through June and then after the 4th having our own District Tournament All Stars. This tourney would not require the affidavits and stop at District Champion. 


I'm wondering what the position would be from Williamsport when we request special games. Would they nix it as competing with their "show" ?

#2 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:01 PM

You'll never know until you ask!!!

By the way, Special Games only require Regional approval.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:33 PM


I'd have to agree with you. None of our teams are getting past sectionals. And we've been talking internally how terrible this season has been.

With our regular season starting May 1st, constant rain and little to no practices the regular season has been a whirlwind.
Because emphasis has been and unless we do something about it All-Stars.
"Gotta make up games on practice nights. Gotta play double headers on weekends. Gotta get 12 games by June 1st."

We've been asking ourselves why??
Why not scrap all-stars.

For regular season Schedule 2 games per week have 2 practices per week and run the schedules at your own pace without the deadlines for District play you can play through June comfortably.

Once the regular season is over have an Allstar team play a local tourney "special games" and be done by the 4th of July. Yes the fantasy of making a run at WP or in our case Alpinrose is great and all but let's face it we aren't getting by Seymour anyway.

Why cut the development short for the majority when the minority in all reality aren't going too far anyway?

#4 Jeremy



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:57 PM

Little off topic but the thread brought this question to mind, what is the earliest you can start your TAD program (fallball)..?

#5 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:18 PM

You can start your "TAD/Fall Ball" Program anytime after your Regular Season is over.

Several leagues around here start in mid-to-late August and end the week before Thanksgiving.
Others start in early September.

#6 Mike_Hirschman


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:07 PM

A lot of districts run additional tournaments after the districts to create additional play.


Rather than having 12s sit around for 23 days before districts start, last year I tried to get a preview weekend going to keep them from going to illegal tournaments where each would play two games on a weekend. Presidents approved it. Coaches put a wet blanket on that because they didn't want teams to be able to scout them (seriously).

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:23 AM

We have had a district invitational for years after the teams are eliminated from All Stars. 

Better than playing 3-4 games and going home.

Teams usually add more players for the summer and the roster limit is 18. (Good for vacations and stuff, tuff if they all show up.)

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