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#21 Mike_Hirschman

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:58 PM

Oil Delivery.... no.
Rented my house for a year before buying it.
While renting, the landlord had the account.
When we bought the house, it was transferred over.

Water bill could go a couple of ways.... is it city water?
Could that be a municipal record?

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 04:01 PM

The leagues in our District had a big problem with the new groups of Residency Proofs required, especially group 2.
Many provided a copy of their Federal Income Tax, the first page, however it would not be a valid form without proof of filing date...the second page...or a statement of e-filing with the date.
They could have filed late even this year and without a date it would not meet the requirement. To be a valid document they should have provided their 2015 return and the date of filing which would have to be in the 2/1/16 to 2/1/17 window.

Our district is switching to all school enrollment forms for next year, if they don't change it!!
So much easier although we do have two leagues who share a school, making it hard for the one league because the school is in another boundary!
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#23 Mike_Hirschman

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Posted 26 June 2017 - 02:07 PM

Doesn't matter if leagues share a school.
The physical address of the school determines which league would be eligible for the school enrollment form.
Thus, the second league would still have to use residency.

Frankly, school enrollment needs to get tightened up.
Way too much room for neglect in that process.

#24 rsnyder6

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:46 AM

We used the school forms almost exclusively this year.
Much easier.

"Frankly, school enrollment needs to get tightened up.
Way too much room for neglect in that process."

You think principals are just singing off without checking?

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 06:04 AM

I think they are signing off without knowing they are signing off....also known as forging.
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#26 B_Hanlon

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:37 PM

I would not be surprised if leagues are forging school forms.
There is no way a DA or ADA is going to know every "School Administrator" in their District, not to mention there is a vague description of exactly what a "School Administrator" is.

Easy solution, require a school stamp or seal on the form.

#27 Lou Barbieri

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:33 PM

If you believe that leagues are indeed using "forged" School Forms then submit a "Proposal" to LL for next year's Congress.

As you say, it might be as simple as requiring a School Stamp on the Form.

#28 rsnyder6

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 04:23 PM

Some further proof than a signature might help. I don't think the switch to only a principal signing off really did that much.

But then if people really want to cheat, they will find a way.

I once saw a player I personally knew walking to a game in the jersey of a player from another team.

(Heck, the #3 hitter and relief pitcher we faced at our 17U game Sunday was the same kid who hit a couple doubles off us for another team a couple weeks ago, despite the fact the rules only allow a player to be on one roster.)

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 06:31 PM

 "I don't think the switch to only a principal signing off really did that much."

 

Did I miss something during my winter hibernation?



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 09:38 PM

"I don't think the switch to only a principal signing off really did that much."

Did I miss something during my winter hibernation?


Oops, I forgot that was a request from our local District.

I don't know if there was an issue in the past, but we were asked this year to get principal's signature, not just any administrator.

Don't know if they enforced it.

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 04:37 PM

In my opinion, requesting that only the Principal signs them is a sure way to persuade the local school not to sign them.
As a DA, the school form is my very best friend and I smile when I see them!
No way would I make them more complicated or difficult to obtain.

#32 Mike_Hirschman

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 06:21 PM

Oops, I forgot that was a request from our local District.

I don't know if there was an issue in the past, but we were asked this year to get principal's signature, not just any administrator.

Don't know if they enforced it.


Except your DA can't hold anyone to that if challenged....

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 03:50 AM

Except your DA can't hold anyone to that if challenged....


Yes, but it was just a request to make things smoother.
I think there was some issue of just what an administrator is. :)

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Posted 10 July 2017 - 02:44 PM

I rejected one the other day signed by the school nurse...

For LL Congress one of my suggestions will be a school stamp or seal.

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:08 PM

at the first sectional game last night, I had to check both teams affidavits and all paperwork,, a player that moved into the area last year, started school in Sept 2016, had the form signed by the principle 6/17/2016,
has been a student at the school since sept 2015, and on the top line the parents had filled in 6/8/17.
so the form had to be incorrect. or forged. and he was the only player new to last years team.
only 2 other players used the school form. so...it wasn't like the whole team used the same form.
So...since school is not in session now, I told them to get 3 proofs before Feb 1, 2017 that says they live where they do, and have to meet the 3 different categories and I need to see them within the next 24 hours..



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